All you need to know about HIV

[Big Sexy]

No problem with your statment... but r u 100% sure the HIV test kit they use in UK is similar to the one in sg??

hmm.. also on the point that your friend was told to keep on testing for HIV for 3 years....not to doubt you.... but i really dont think DCS is so cockup..
i have been there many time for the check up since about 3 years back and was told eery time to use 3-6 month as a guideline. 3 month being 99.5% sure ... and 6 month to be 100% sure.. never was i told to continue to test for more than a year...

Originally Posted by jericho123456

bro big sexy, the purpose of my post is not to discredit you. hope u understand. Just to let fellow forumers know the exact guidelines. I remembered during 1998 when USA is using 6 months, sillypore is still using the old guidelines from 1985 which is 1 year. A friend of mine was told by dsc to keep testing until he show positive and eventually he kept on testing out to 3 years. Recently I've spoken to a volunteer in sillypore and they told me a 6 months test is necessary because asians have weaken immune thus take longer to produce antibodies.


The virus do not know where you stay so it doesn't matter where you get tested. The test equipment use here is exactly what they use in england, australia, hong ####, malaysia. A person testing in sillypore is not consider definitive at 3 months but his result is conclusive the moment he crosses the causeway to JB. For example, a british working in sillypore or a sillyporean working in new york, which guideline should they follow? So for people testing, it is just on who's opinion you value. whether sillypore or what the rest of the world is saying.

Originally Posted by Big Sexy

No problem with your statment... but r u 100% sure the HIV test kit they use in UK is similar to the one in sg??

hmm.. also on the point that your friend was told to keep on testing for HIV for 3 years....not to doubt you.... but i really dont think DCS is so cockup..
i have been ther
e many time for the check up since about 3 years back and was told eery time to use 3-6 month as a guideline. 3 month being 99.5% sure ... and 6 month to be 100% sure.. never was i told to continue to test for more than a year...

the test used are exactly what they use in UK and Netherlands.Anyone who been there for the test should recognised it.

http://www.pmtctdonations.org/en/pro...determine.aspx

http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/E01C...8F706BAACC2.asp

http://www.hivnet.org/HVN/Organisati...heckpoint8.htm

Other lab test from singapore labs are 3rd generation elisas consist of the abbott AXSYM, PRISM or IMX..

Actually nothing in medical is 100% ..doctors will just tell u a test at 6 months is over 99% and u are damn safe. Weird things happens so there is no gurantee in anything.Throughout the 20 + years, there are only 2 cases of seroconverting after 3 months..1 at 9 months and another at 12 months..But these are Health Care Worker that kanna needle stick injuries..so even if a person is a odd case out of millions..a 6 months test is also not always gurantee safe.

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/S...r/Q155156.html

I've checked with a specialist from John Hopkins University and was told that a 6 months test is necessary is the person is being put on PEP which are antiretroviral drugs to help prevent infection if a person has a high risk. those drugs might delayed seroconversion. The french scientist Luc Montaigner who isolate both strains of the virus stated that the longer seroconversion he ever seen is 77 days. Read the book "the man and the virus" c 1994.


Also read this article if interested. From the australian government. there are some interesting facts about the window period. On the bottom of the article.

http://www.ashm.org.au/uploadFile/jc_april%20issue.pdf

[sadsea]

hi everyone, just sharing fro my trip today to afa hiv test.

downstair renovation so proceed to 2nd floor follow two malay gals. paid 20 bucks ,wait a while see concellor miss anglene an ang mo nice lady. ask me what the main reason coming for tis test, told her one exploure made me feel uncomfortable, one very fine day go hc and hj by one lady, think i too long not coming she pop her finger into my ass and i cum immediately. my story end here and she conti her advise, said i shouldn't worry, it is fine as no juice exchange. i told her i know but the uncomfortable feeling still there, just came for clarify, ( my heart also think can share this at tis forum after the test), so usual go out go into another room for blood test, then after a few minutes call by miss anglene, give me a great smile before enter the room, told me the result and ask me not to worry anymore, she told me if worry during sex no point at all, she told me sex is very importance in life so do not have unnecessary worry, and the last but not least she told me to practice safe sex at all time, use CONDOM. very nice lady to talk to, during the concelling i keep on looking onto her long kang( sibei chee kou). after that go home and tell myself got to retire liao( this the 7th time i told myself).

above just a sharing, just hope bro go regular check up or test if u active or semi active in commerical sex, it just a responsible to know ur own status, it is good for everybody. infact i think it is a good deed to bring courage to go for check or test. take care everyone, nice day.

[Big Sexy]

u very naughty...

Originally Posted by sadsea

very nice lady to talk to, during the concelling i keep on looking onto her long kang( sibei chee kou).

[be gone]

Hi all,

feeling paranoid over the past 2 days and finally went for the hiv test on Sat.
These two days have been the longest of my life. Wasn't able to concentrate in the office and thinking of a lot of things. Once I am back home, I would spend hours seaching for information on hiv and looking back if I had any obvious symptons back then.Btw, my last dangerous exposure was somewhere in Feb last year


It's really killing me as each second was like days, each minute was like months and each hour was like years to me. I was going insane. I realise that should the worst happened, it will be a situation that I cannot handle and definitely I will just break down.

Went up to the second floor, paid $20, fill up a form and waited. Meet up with angela and told her my dangerous encounters, 1 count of unprotected sex and 1 count of a condom breakage. Told her of my mental state is very unstable and it's killing me because this one test, the result will be conclusive, either it's a sure positive or a sure negativeve since I have fulfilled the window period. There is no more a second chance.


Got a small prick on the middle finger and drip a drop of blood on the test strip. Went back outside the waiting area, as I await my sentence to be passed on me. To me, it's already a fxxx feeling to be judged by others and I feel even worse when I know I may be put on death row within 10-15 minutes.

My number was called up! Time's up I guess, the moment of truth will soon befall on me. Will I be truly reborn or truly be gone. What am i going to tell my loved ones? Will I just break donw and go insane? These are some of the thoughts that went through my mind.

It's angela again and she told me, I am safe and I can step out of here and have a peace of my mind.

Life is already short so don't make it shorter,
Life is precious to lose to a damn virus.


My message to brothers, wear a condom before your didi go cheong in the public toilet since he wouldn't (and neither will you) know the type of enemy he encounter in the public toilet.

After this ordeal, a though came to me and say: why not let those newbies who wanted to start cheonging go through the hiv testing experience so that end of the day, they will be aware of the stress level they have to go through and the courage they have to muster to go for the test.

Only then will they be more clear of what they are getting themslves into the commercial sex scence. Just hope that it's not just joy, pleasure and your didi feels shiok that one is getting into when he goes into commercial sex, but also the stress and phobia that one has to cope as well. If you can't you would have gone insane while waiting to go for the first test (3 month window) and then a second round (for the the 6 month period.)Only then the results will be very much concclusive.

[qbdp]

Originally Posted by be gone

It's angela again and she told me, I am safe and I can step out of here and have a peace of my mind.

Life is already short so don't make it shorter,
Life is precious to lose to a damn virus.


My message to brothers, wear a condom before your didi go cheong in the public toilet since he wouldn't (and neither will you) know the type of enemy he encounter in the public toilet.

After this ordeal, a though came to me and say: why not let those newbies who wanted to start cheonging go through the hiv testing experience so that end of the day, they will be aware of the stress level they have to go through and the courage they have to muster to go for the test.

bro...first of all i would like to congratulate you on the negative test result.

you used the term 'public toilet'.

in our real world, we have a choice to use and pay for the public toilets when one has real nature calls. our hands are not twisted neither do we have knives pointed at us forcing us to use them. it is one's call to decide whether he wants to use the public or home toilets.

are you referring the girls in the trade and maybe ONS ladies as 'public toilets'? if you are, dont you think its derogating/degrading to use this term on them? especially now that you have tested negative and the world's weight is off your shoulders.

[be gone]

Bro qpdp,

I apologize for my choice of words. Next time I will use a better choice of words..my ang moh not too good. I hope that my intention of good will is not mistaken by brothers here. I only hope that my experience would be a reminder for the people reading this forum.


Peace.

[qbdp]

Originally Posted by be gone

Bro qpdp,

I apologize for my choice of words. Next time I will use a better choice of words..my ang moh not too good. I hope that my intention of good will is not mistaken by brothers here. I only hope that my experience would be a reminder for the people reading this forum.


Peace.

bro be gone

i fully understand your good intention to encourage bros in the forum to go for the test. this is commendable. and the same goes to bros who always encourage the same.

no worries. no feelings harm.

cheers!

[KLGL]

hi all,

i have a qn, is the antibodies still detectable after the window period of 6 mths(frm the last encounter)?

i did a test on the 3rd and 4th mths and cleared it, cant help but to worry.
highest risk taken was raw oral, bonking capped.

sigh,
KLGL

[thecas]

Yes, its detectable... untill perhapd the aids stage when immune system is crippled

[nickwch]

Originally Posted by KLGL

hi all,

i have a qn, is the antibodies still detectable after the window period of 6 mths(frm the last encounter)?

i did a test on the 3rd and 4th mths and cleared it, cant help but to worry.
highest risk taken was raw oral, bonking capped.

sigh,
KLGL

Oral even raw is still consider low risk. U tested till 4th mth is a very gd indication. Most countries test till 3 mth. Dun worry so much and enjoy the holidays.

Happy CNY brudders.

[sunnyboy26]

after reading what you guys posted, I just have to say that once you decided to go for sex and can't stop this urge. You should be prepare for HIV even if you have protection with condoms. if you got bad luck and you got Aids, just have to face it and say to yourself. It's your own life, you created this shit and you deserve to face this shit.

[adrian76]

Hi had some quirey in my mind.. hope you all can help..

1. if i bring the bar gal for a checkup and the test show that she was free from HIV or STD.. what the risk of getting any of the virus if we had raw sex??

[Big Sexy]

unless u can make sure that she have no sex for 3 month before u send her for the HIV check up.... it defeat the purpose of the whole checkup..

and i really doubt the bar gal will agree to let you check her for a check up..

Originally Posted by adrian76

Hi had some quirey in my mind.. hope you all can help..

1. if i bring the bar gal for a checkup and the test show that she was free from HIV or STD.. what the risk of getting any of the virus if we had raw sex??

[adrian76]

Originally Posted by Big Sexy

unless u can make sure that she have no sex for 3 month before u send her for the HIV check up.... it defeat the purpose of the whole checkup..

and i really doubt the bar gal will agree to let you check her for a check up..

Thanks for the help.. had raise this question is because my fren had sex with a bar gal with condem but half way thru the gal remove his condem and given no choice he do it raw... after that the gal tell her she just went for check up... she was free from any virus... my fren a bit scare scare so i help him to posted here to check...btw that means if we had raw and after that i bring the gal for check up... the check up didnt show any sign of virus.. i will still be infected because it take 3 month before they are able to detect the virus it is??

Great appericate your advise