Tieng Viet lovers club

[jackbl]

联合国：受通胀和金融风暴影响 越南濒贫家庭或深陷极贫

（2008-10-27）（河内法新电）联合国警告，在双位数通货膨胀和环球金融风暴的冲击下，处于贫困边缘的越南家庭，有可 能再度坠入极度贫困的深渊。
　　联合国驻越南协调员亨德拉说，尽管越南近年经济飞腾，但有许多群体依然面临缺粮的威胁，尤其是无地阶级 的农民、城市穷人和少数民族。

　　环球商品和能源价格已从今年的高峰价位回跌，越南通胀数字也相应下滑，但当地本月份的通胀率依然保持在 26.7%的高水平，以致最边缘化的家庭经济上受到挤压。

　　亨德拉指出，环球金融危机多半也会冲击以出口为主导的越南经济。

　　他日前在全国播映的电视讲话中说：“这些经济挑战结合起来，令越南的除贫进展面对威胁。”

根据联合国数据，“许多越南家庭的财务缩水，特别是较穷困者，部分家庭确实有可能重坠贫困线以下，那些已经 坠入（贫困线下）的，则需要更多帮助。”

　　“穷妇孺尤其岌岌可危，因为他们原本就不充足的营养状况，有可能因为粮价上涨而恶化。”

　　这十多年来，越南一直享有7.5%以上的经济增长，让数以千万计的穷人得以脱贫。但是过去一年，发展过 热的越南经济受到双位数通胀和其他经济问题的冲击，粮食、汽油价格高涨更让穷人首当其冲，并引 发社会不满。

　　亨德拉上周曾指出，越南整体并不缺粮，有些农民还因为高粮价而受益，但当地有过半家庭是粮食净购者，他 们的实质购买能力已经下降。

因为这个缘故，低技术和无地阶级农民、年长者等群体实际上“短期内不但情况更糟，长期获得足够粮食的能力也 受到挑战”。

最贫困的家庭可能被迫让孩子辍学或减少医药开支。
　　而处境最危急的是少数民族，包括中部高原和西北山区的族群，他们已经面对“高贫率，以及五岁以下孩童发 育迟缓比率介于中度到严重”的问题。

　　亨德拉建议越南加强社会安全计划，改善贫困数据收集工作，以便更准确、更迅速地确认风险最高的群体，对 他们施予援手。

　　他也警告，越南迅速工业化对粮食安全长期构成威胁，农村地区将因为“供工业、住宅、旅游和消闲用途的地 段需求不断增长”，而面对压力。

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by casannova03

cannot be lei bro...i always give her generous tips and she knows it... minimum also 100 always and never go' khach san' so i dun think i treat her badly financially lei.

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~nen co chu e va ban e o day e kg muon noi chuyen voi~

this part i know cos i was on the phone with her before she ended the call.....

so in summary is this msg an angry one bros??

As long as you are happy, you can think whatever you wanted...you are the best person to know if the msg is angry or to lead you on for more ....hahaha...

Originally Posted by jackbl

Care to share what the following means?

yeu la chet trong long mot it
vi may khi yeu co duoc yeu
cho rat nhieu song nhan chang bao nhieu
nguoi ta phu hoac tho o chang biet

love is die a little bit inside the heart
cause love sometimes dun have any return
gives alot but receives back just a bit
someone gives up or dun care

[casannova03]

Originally Posted by RJ2004

i dun think the msg is an angry one, just explaining the situation... how long have you known her/spent on her?

hope so...haha... anyway she went back to vn liao so i have not called her vn phone yet so i dunno if she's angry....anyway i have known her for about half a year liao...spent?? hmmm dunno man never count maybe thousand +++ ba......

[casannova03]

Originally Posted by jackbl

I sms your enquiry to 1 of my vn fren, although her english not powerful, but the meaning is along the line.... maybe just strike off the word "financially".... meaning u cannot take care of her......

thanks bro for the effort.....i think i have up ur points but if dun have pls let me know k....thanks really!!

[jackbl]

Brides on sale
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When the transaction is primarily commercial in nature, marriages are made in hell.
She saw marriage to a wealthy foreigner as an escape from “private misfortune,” but V had no idea what she was letting herself in for.

After living with her South Korean husband for less than a month, the Vietnamese woman in her twenties had to flee.

She was on the verge of hysteria as she narrated her harrowing ordeal to Thanh Nien.

Through a match-making agency, V met a South Korean man with the family name of Kwon in his 50s. He said he was a construction engineer with a monthly salary of US$7,000 and had been divorced once.

In South Korea, V and her husband lived in a two-bedroom apartment and Kwon bought her a telephone and a computer for her room.

But she soon learnt from neighbors that she was the fourth wife of the man who had previously married two Korean women and later a Vietnamese wife.

She also discovered that his previous Vietnamese wife had spent less than a month with him, and also escaped.

And the “construction engineer” was always at home, never going out to work. He told her he had been given time off to enjoy his new life with V.

She got panicky as her husband made incessant demands for sex.

He wanted it everyday and sometimes engaged in “queer acts” with her at home, in the elevator, car and on way to visit their friends’, V said. He even abused her when he was watching television, not allowing her to return to her room.

He showed no concern for his partner’s feelings and was willing to have sex immediately after a quarrel, V said.

Once, after a few days of living together, V refused him because she was tired, and he immediately grew angry.

He uninstalled all the equipment in her room, including the telephone, the computer and even took away her clay piggy bank that she kept to save small change.

The following day, he came to apologize and requested V to agree to have sex with him once every two days.

“It was very painful.”

During one of their frequent quarrels, he threatened to strangle her. V then drew out a knife from the kitchen box, gave it him and told him to kill her if he can’t respect her as a human being.

She knew then that she had to get away from him.

She approached the South Korea-based match-making agency (PIM) that had arranged the meeting between her and Kwon, and insisted on the divorce despite all their efforts to effect a reconciliation.

Finally, they threatened that V had to give back all her wedding gifts including jewelry, mobile phone, and souvenirs that her husband gave her, in “accordance with Korean customs.”

In the days she waited for the trial, V was cut off from the telephone and banned from cooking. She survived in the apartment with a package of instant noodles she had brought there from Vietnam.

After court ruled on the divorce, V was forbidden from entering the apartment by security staff of the apartment building.

Match-fixing

V stressed to Thanh Nien that although the whole affair was fraught with problems, it was a completely legal affair.

She was introduced to Kwon by a legal agency – the Marriage Assistance Center (MAC) under the Ho Chi Minh City Women’s Federation.

After a brief wedding party within a week of meeting each other, the husbands left for South Korea and the Vietnamese brides were grouped together in a two-story building at 36/20 Giai Phong Street in Tan Binh District, while legal documents were finalized for them to leave the country.

During this period, the brides were given courses in Korean culture, custom and tradition, cooking and flower decoration.

Everyday, a MAC staff delivered money for food. When V was staying there in late 2007, she and 15 other brides were given a total of VND35,000 ($2).

She demanded better food rations and the sum was increased to VND50,000 ($3) a day.

V said she knows many of her compatriots in South Korea were also ill-treated and sexually abused by their husbands or husband’s relatives.

They were also beaten but refused to divorce for fear of staying far away from their children, being sneered at by neighbors in Vietnam, or unable to return her payment of VND40 million.

Recently, Th, a bride introduced by the MAC, tried to commit suicide but she was luckily rescued, V said.

Mutual trust

In an interview with Thanh Nien, Nguyen Thi Bach Tuyet, MAC director, affirmed that her agency cooperates with South Korean company PIM in the match making service.

Introducing Vietnamese brides to foreign men whose identities are not confirmed is quite dangerous. So her center joined hands with PIM to provide better service, with the permission of the HCMC Women’s Federation, Tuyet explained.

“We cooperate on the basis of mutual trust.”

The South Korean company is responsible for investigating and sending personal information about South Korean bridegrooms to Vietnam.

“In the last two years of cooperation, most information they gave us was exact and reliable.”

Tuyet also emphasized that the two agencies only introduced both sides and created the opportunity for them to meet and learn about each other, and there was absolutely no coercion or force to enter the marriage.

Her agency had introduced only 256 local women to be the wives of South Korean men since its establishment in 2003. Meanwhile, each month the South Korea General Consulate in HCMC granted visas to 400 Vietnamese women for marriage-related permanent residence in their country.

The limited number shows MAC prioritizes careful selection, Tuyet said. She conceded that a week was not enough for two people to meet and get married, but the decision is made by the Vietnamese brides, and MAC and PIM respect their selection.

The pledge to refund VND40 million if a divorce took place in the first six months, is required to make the wives be more responsible with their decision, Tuyet explained.

She also confessed that her agency could not help them much in South Korea, except to request assistance from South Korean authorities or the PIM company.

[jackbl]

More tourists choose Vietnam over Thailand
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More Japanese and Korean tourists are travelling to Viet Nam instead of Thailand because of the volatile politics in that country, according to tour companies in HCM City.

Japanese and Korean tour companies are providing tours to Viet Nam as compensation for their customers, although the price of a tour to Viet Nam is US$150 higher than one to Thailand.

In related news, travel operators taking part in a seminar entitled the “People’s Contribution in Tourism,” said that in recent years Da Lat, Hue, and Hoi An have done a good job in mobilizing inhabitants to participate in tourist-oriented festivals, especially the Da Lat flower festival, Hue festival, and the Hoi An full moon festival.

The seminar was held Thursday by the Association of Cities of Viet Nam and by Germany’s Konrad Adenauer Stiftung.

Homestay tours are one of the most popular kind of tours for foreigners visiting Viet Nam, said a travel operator. (SGGP)

[Darkstorm]

Can anyone help me translate:
"nho giu gin suc khoe"?

Thanks

[drassen]

Originally Posted by Darkstorm

Can anyone help me translate:
"nho giu gin suc khoe"?

Thanks

remember to take good care of your health. (记得要照顾好自己的身体)

[jackbl]

Another potential adviser... please come here often to lend a hand in translation...

Originally Posted by drassen

remember to take good care of your health. (记得要照顾好自己的身体)

[Leeson]

Originally Posted by casannova03

hope so...haha... anyway she went back to vn liao so i have not called her vn phone yet so i dunno if she's angry....anyway i have known her for about half a year liao...spent?? hmmm dunno man never count maybe thousand +++ ba......

wah, you the man, so wad you expecting from her?

[casannova03]

Originally Posted by Leeson

wah, you the man, so wad you expecting from her?

no la...i play cheat la....haha cos i count in all the bill for drinks whenever i go see her....hahaha!!! so maybe 30% drinks bill and the rest her tips lor...

hmmm... i really dun know but i just want to see her happy lor....actually she was married in vn to a viet guy whose family is freaking rich....but according to her she left him because she cannot stand the fact that all he does is drink gamble and waste his family's fortunes and of course the drunken behaviour when he gets home....

shes here to work to earn money for herself cos she's got no family back home except her granny who dun need her support anyway...

and the good thing is she's got character really...which WL will leave a rich husband ...i mean isn't that what a lot of them are looking for?? so she understands that i will never leave my wife for her and all she expects is for me to spend time with her whenever my schedule allows...but....it is never enough for her i guess so she gets upset somethimes...

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by casannova03

hmmm... i really dun know but i just want to see her happy lor...

Move on with life...

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by casannova03

hmmm... i really dun know but i just want to see her happy lor....actually she was married in vn to a viet guy whose family is freaking rich....but according to her she left him because she cannot stand the fact that all he does is drink gamble and waste his family's fortunes and of course the drunken behaviour when he gets home....

That is a very very common thing here in Vietnam. You can see it everywhere

[zhu star]

This look like a nice thread to ask some question on Vietnam history. Can anyone recommend which is the best places to visit in HCM and Dalaut with my other loving half

Recommendation of nice and cheap hotels is also appreciated.

I know I can search for such info from the web or ask my viet gf but I think it is better if I ask all the viet experts.

[zhu star]

Originally Posted by casannova03

hmmm... i really dun know but i just want to see her happy lor....actually she was married in vn to a viet guy whose family is freaking rich....but according to her she left him because she cannot stand the fact that all he does is drink gamble and waste his family's fortunes and of course the drunken behaviour when he gets home....

In my eight years of experience with them, I dare say that majority are married n divorce before they arrived here to work. Also many already has kids. The same old songs has been heard many times in the pubs that I already used to it. A co-worker of mine manages to spend his insurance payout of S$26,000 in about 5 weeks in blue region.