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Old 28-09-2009, 01:01 AM
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Re: Tieng Viet lovers club

Seeing them lidat, makes me think that spore children is alot more fortunate, got parents driving them to and fro school

Children cross borders, rivers to get an education
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Vietnamese children living in Cambodia cross a river to return home from school.
Nguyen Thi Diem has to row a boat across Cambodia border twice a day to get her children to school and and back.


Many Vietnamese families moved to Koh Thum District in Kandal Province of the neighboring country many years ago as they found it easier to subsist on fishing and farming there.

However, the children do not know the local language, so more than 500 of them travel back to Vietnam every day, crossing many rivers to attend classes in An Giang Province.

Diem said she feels weary and sad and every time she sees such scenes.

Diep Hoang Nang, an eighth-grader at the Khanh An Junior High in An Giang, said there’s a school near his house in Cambodia but it only teaches subjects in the Khmer language.

Nguyen Van Tien, whose children also cross the border to school every day, said “The children only need to learn to read and write. That would be an achievement already.”

Many children do quit school right after learning to read and write to help their parents make a living, said Hinh Quoc Khinh, president of the B Primary School in An Giang.

But some children have left entered college and done well, Nang said, adding they are the examples for others to follow. From them, “we learn to escape poverty.”

By sending her daughter to school back home, Huynh Thi My Huong only hoped to get her literate, but Le My Duyen has performed so well that her parents have agreed to keep her on.

The ninth-grader at Khanh Ha Junior High said she would try to win admission to college.

Le Van Tam, vice president of the school, said half of the students getting good grades are the Vietnamese children living in Cambodia.

Tam said poverty and the traveling problems have made many children quit school, but “once they’ve managed to overcome the problems, they study very hard.”

Local authorities in Khanh An Province have arranged with pier operators on both sides to carry the children for free.

Yet Tam expressed concern that the journeys on boat are not very safe for the children.

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Thanks bro haha_123 & bro sha gua for the valuable advise..

Not sure if it came too late or just nice .. Just now in the noon 4+.. she message me ask mi where i am ., i also gong gong tell her where i was that time and she message me say "ok enjoy your day".. then suddenly something struck my mind the next second thinking "she like tat ask is it she want to see if i around her place and if i am she will meet me..) so i was near her house that time but still need 10 min(by mrt) to reach so i tot she want to see me so i rush over(by mrt , just 2 stops away).. and when i reached i message her again say " actually i am at your house downstairs park seating.." , the next thing she did was to come down .. i tot finally ok.. but was not to be... more like a confrontation ...

bla bla say i ask her to meet alot that she use all her free time whether on working day or off day.. Now she say i make her tired and feels i am boring and stupid dunno alot of things (not sure if its due to night shift bad tempered.)

SAy now she see mi face she hate mi so much[ on fri still say see me although tired also not tired], Say i start to control her only after one month if continue how., .nvr let her do her things to study english 1st and possible go study diploma work in Singapore and I nvr do my things then our future how if we keep on meeting like that ..

say like that have bf then better dun have bf better since it makes her tired …(we nvr really sort out things like talk reason in a session like solving problem always only she angry I pacify her next day then everything settle. Always small things)

Actually i am going to ask her in a few days if we meet 2 times a week on her free and not tired day how is it but since she brought up today i straight tell her ... nvr giv reply.. quiet for 15 min say if we meet like this until she too tired and sick ow.. she say I take care of myself u take care of your self.. she say I should know what she did to her ex.-bf once think canot work out , she will not bother bout him no matter how hard he try to patch up.. (as bro haha say chang tong bu ru duan tong , by the way she had told her family , friends even ex bf bout me.. I even met her room mates have some small eating session with beer at their house for 2 times)… I ask her if I have the chance to do what I say early bout the meeting up time… she say I should not be so stupid to understand her meaning.. I ask the same thing again( dun dare to ask if she is initiating a break up) she say dunno just dun want to see me now.. so now I not sure becos hot tempered cos really face black although nvr look at me, like in a spite like that want to see if I will do what I say in future or is she saying its over.. cos she nvr say clear to me.. she also nvr bring the things I gave her as gift return me cos she did that to her ex as she mention b4..

Then she had her dinner nearby with me sitting at the same table eating the same thing only thing is she dun let me pay for her food. Silence all the way.. after I eat finish I told her I got some thing on I go off now.. she also stand up walk off to her company start work an hour early..( of cos I walk another direction diff from her but still can see her go to her company..Till now I sent her 1 message like “I reach home already hope u work ok later” just now at 10pm .. , she nvr bother to send me the sop messages she sent this morning..

For the “she angry me” not so serious of 4 times. I always appear the next day around her house or Morning at her workplace after she is angry with me to apologise in viet of cos and bring her some things like what juice she like I go make them myself deliver it myself to her .. but she say her friends start to feel I not good like appearing a few times after quarrel without notifying her..(their so called sudden appear) she say her friend say I meet her so much must as well get a house let her live in there I take care of her…( damn I even treat them eat whenever they are with her during breakfast or outing)

We are only together a month( i suppose its what its called honey moon period) we fall so deep so fast becos i like her a lot even more than my ex and she also feel the same as me as she feel she likes me more than her ex (she told me one during a sensual talk at park) that I keep meeting her everyday except 4 days total like I go overseas or work..) during this period she also nvr even complain that i meet her too many times make her tired.. most times still say meet me already not feel tired..

Haizz at a loss now dunno what to do now to get through this tide ..

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Not sure if it came too late or just nice .. Just now in the noon 4+.. she message me ask mi where i am ., i also gong gong tell her where i was that time and she message me say "ok enjoy your day".. then suddenly something struck my mind the next second thinking "she like tat ask is it she want to see if i around her place and if i am she will meet me..)
I dunno if this viet gal of your is a WL/student. But when a viet gal wanna dump you, they can totally ignore you or come out 101 reasons. Especially with the younger generation viet gals. Their thinking are not as traditional as those in the late 20s/ early 30s liao. Move on, let both of you have a breather. Don't look for her anymore. If she wanna meet up she will tell you to meet her.

by the way, when she ask you where you are or what are you doing, it is just an SOP sms. It does not mean that she wanna meet you. You think tooo much bro.
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Old 28-09-2009, 11:30 AM
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I went out with a gal yesterday. After sending the gal back home, I join some SBF bro in echo. The gal also know that I go drinking elsewhere and to hug gal.
We had the following sms.

Me: e voi toi nha, e met kg? e co di lam kg? (you reach home, are you tired? you got go work?)
Gal: e o nha hom nay e kg co di lam. a dang o dau vay (I am at home, today never go work. Where are you?)
Me: A di gap ban a uong bia o cho khac (I go meet friend to drink beer at othe place)
Gal: Lai di nua roi. chac con nho do moi dt roi a di chua gi (????????)

I dunno what she mean in the last sms. Any bro to help?
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Old 28-09-2009, 11:41 AM
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bla bla say i ask her to meet alot that she use all her free time whether on working day or off day.. Now she say i make her tired and feels i am boring and stupid dunno alot of things (not sure if its due to night shift bad tempered.)

SAy now she see mi face she hate mi so much[ on fri still say see me although tired also not tired], Say i start to control her only after one month if continue how., .nvr let her do her things to study english 1st and possible go study diploma work in Singapore and I nvr do my things then our future how if we keep on meeting like that ..

say like that have bf then better dun have bf better since it makes her tired

Actually i am going to ask her in a few days if we meet 2 times a week on
Then she had her dinner nearby with me sitting at the same table eating the same thing only thing is she dun let me pay for her food. Silence all the way..

For the “she angry me” not so serious of 4 times. I always appear the next
day around her house or Morning at her workplace after she is angry with me to apologise in viet of cos and bring her some things like what juice she like I go make them myself deliver it myself to her .. but she say her friends start to feel I not good like appearing a few times after quarrel without notifying her..
DROP HER QUICKLY! In the parts I quoted are the exact replica, sentences, and behavior I have heard when a gal was not reliable at all. Got 2 like that, first one I fell in the trap, and there was much more stories coming, second one started the same, I dropped.

That kind of women are extremely possessive, and love to make the men feel guilty. The 'you are stupid', 'you'll break my life as I cannot work/study because you make me tired', 'you are boring', 'better to have no man in my life' and such things I have heard it countless times, it is plain bullshit, but the girls who do like that are always sweet looking and extremely dangerous.

One tip, when she is angry, you have to be angry, not shy, sad, or caring like crazy. Or you are lost. She is angry because you come to her house to visit her? You are angry because she welcomes you like that where you spent the time and energy to come. If she does not understand, turn and leave instant, don't try to discuss. She is playing a dirty control game on you.

When they tell you you don't know a lot of things, it's a pride for them to lower you, show that they have no esteem for you, and last maybe she has a boyfriend or this kind of things, so it makes her have a very big laugh inside

One sentence I have heard a couple of time, angry girlfriend means beating wife... There are a lot of hysterical gals in Vietnam you really do not want to spend your life with, see the other thread I posted in, You imagine REALLY spending 10 years with a girl that will become older and less attractive, which is normal and accepted, BUT still will be angry at you, say that you are a shit, a looser, a stupid asshole, you make her tired, you are boring? If you are boring, for a Vietnamese, it means she warns you she can go out with a boyfriend that will be funny, trust me. I do not see any future between you and her if she is like that, dump her.
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Gal: Lai di nua roi. chac con nho do moi dt roi a di chua gi (????????)

I dunno what she mean in the last sms. Any bro to help?
I just guess. The original sentence should be "Gal: Lai di nua roi. chac con nho do moi di roi a di choi gi"

"You go again. Certainly you still miss that (place) so you go. You go to play what?"

If I am correct, the girl must be very drunk at that time. hahaha.
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Old 28-09-2009, 01:15 PM
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thanks for the reply bro KT and KL ...

point noted bro KT.

she is working in factory which i will not name whose clients are hp , mac , sony all these famous IT makers..as an operator , was on 2 yr wp. fnish one yr le.. left one more yr.. thats why she intend to go for IELTS cert and went on to diploma , say if she do not study her parents will want her to go back.. btw she is a uni grad in vietnam and was a certified teacher there... had been in teaching line over there for 1-2 yrs before she wants a change from her teaching job , went for the interview and is 1 of the 80 ppl to get this job as an operator to come to singapore

anyway she did reply another sop message during her break at wee hours of 1+am yesterday prior to my 10 pm message i did not reply ... i dun want her to think i am still awake waiting for her..(i dun want her to tink i am a freak or si chan lan da)... i did message her in the morning after her work to say morning + some caring messages.. but she did not reply with sop message till now..

Actually i am blaming myself for doing too much and seeing her too much that she find i am controlling her life and find seeing me is tired thing (actually blaming myself for messing it up ,should have discuss the meeting up issue last week with her) .. but what bro kl say is true .. I am also tired as i am the one who always go to her house as i know her free time is less than mine and she needs to get home early cos also got other room mates living together to prevent shi feri complain her late go back..thats why even if we go anywhere i make sure i sent her safely back home in the night always before midnight .

My job is IT support sometimes no calls can be quite free can chat with her online and i nvr told her i am tired before.. she tot my job is easy and not tired one than her operator job truth is i just do not want to show i am "weak" i nvr told her when i busy she jus dunno ow tired it can be to carry all the pcs monitors ups around and setup.. haizz.

Really wish i can talk to someone rather than hiding it in my heart. this time round i felt like 10 times worse than my prev one of 3 yrs when we had some thing like this.. totally like drained out of energy... now i am very loss and later after work i do not know where to go , i just do not want to go home and b alone by myself.. haha .. very silly of me... i just dunno why my heart is powerful than my mind as logically i should b heartless more and just bo chup her but my heart keep telling to do the opp. I will just see ow it goes see if she is really so heartless or just in a spite of anger.. now i am telling myself if she refuse to meet me within a month , then i tink its all over ..
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DROP HER QUICKLY! In the parts I quoted are the exact replica, sentences, and behavior I have heard when a gal was not reliable at all. Got 2 like that, first one I fell in the trap, and there was much more stories coming, second one started the same, I dropped.

dump her.
the formula to get worthy use of ur time with Viet girls is very simple... you do a bit of baiting at first but the rest of the way they have to be the one to run after you. If they do not do that, be reminded that there are a lot of other pretty viet girls more willing to take her place.

I am not saying that we should be bastard here in any way... especially if you are willing to have a meaningful relationship with a worthy viet girl, you should choose carefully and dun be another hopeless sucker Singapore Boy that get abused by unreasonable Singapore girls.

The beauty of choosing a Viet girl is that they tends to naturally take good care of you, be very obedient to your wimps and wishes, basically pamper you to your death and make you feel like a overgrown baby boy. But if you are not getting anything close to what I had just described, then you better dump her and move on to the next one.

But if you are like most guys who are out to prey and fuck-and-forget type, then again.. you should move on. But from your post, you seems like the mussy-fuzzy type of wimpy goody boy (which you should snap out of that as quickly as possible and time to make women realise that its a men's world).

Either case.... my last 2 words for you ... same as the other post .... dump her.
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thanks for the reply bro KT and KL ...

point noted bro KT.

she is working in factory which i will not name

Actually i am blaming myself for doing too much and seeing her too much that she find i am controlling her life and find seeing me is tired thing (actually blaming myself for messing it up ,should have discuss the meeting up issue last week with her) .. but what bro kl say is true .. I am also tired as i am the one who always go to her house as i know her free time is less than mine and she needs to get home early cos also got other room mates living together to prevent shi feri complain her late go back..thats why even if we go anywhere i make sure i sent her safely back home in the night always before midnight .

if she refuse to meet me within a month , then i tink its all over ..
This is another trial for you.. but you should really consider enrolling urself in a course that says "Everything that you should know about treating a girl RIGHT that your mother had not taught you!"

So far from your posting.. it seems that you are the goody good mommy boy kind... and you also just beginning to realise that you have been doing everything your mother has taught you about treating a girl and it has gotten you no-where so far and instead the effects are direct opposite.

All you think is that I want to proof to the girl that I am a good guy and serious about her and I want to give her all my love and everything... if you keep doing that... you will keep being dumped very quickly....

I am serious... there are such courses that teach you how to score with girls... start looking it up now.
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This is another trial for you.. but you should really consider enrolling urself in a course that says "Everything that you should know about treating a girl RIGHT that your mother had not taught you!"

I am serious... there are such courses that teach you how to score with girls... start looking it up now.
When will you start the lesson? I wanna enrol
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bro depthrai , what u say makes sense .. anyway my mom taught me none of that as i am not close to my mom at all to discuss these issues.. i just feel that i can't hurt a gal i like in my heart that what i tink.. And yes i had told her that i am serious with her and even when she noes my parents do not like vietnamese , she is willing agree to be my gf.. she had told her parents siblings friends all about me and even wanted me to meet her siblings in hcm but air ticket to expensive for oct.. thats y cancel.. also say want to go to bangkok with me in dec for holiday when i ask her , want me to go attend a m'sia wedding of her supervisor say she not sure want to go or not but if i go she will want to go as her sup knows of me and want her to bring me along cos i always around her workplace (send her to work) .. thats y i am so smitten by her i tink.. cos i tot i finally found a girl who really loves me even i am not rich and not after any purpose to be together with me...not like my ex after s pass and pr..

anyway if this relationship really cannot makeup or workout , i tink i will not go into another one for yrs till i tink i am financially stable and smart enough to handle another gal , which i tink high chance is another viet gal cos so far only viet gals can stir my heart (might b a curse i tink) althouhg i had met some other gals for dinner all these , my current one is the 4th i met online and have dinner and is the only one who cause my heart to stir after a few meeting ups in a few days..(she also want to see me that time not only me everyday altohugh i havent jio her to b my gf)
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bro depthrai , what u say makes sense .. anyway my mom taught me none of that as i am not close to my mom at all to discuss these issues.. i just feel that i can't hurt a gal i like in my heart that what i tink.. And yes i had told her that i am serious with her and even when she noes my parents do not like vietnamese , she is willing agree to be my gf.. she had told her parents siblings friends all about me and even wanted me to meet her siblings in hcm but air ticket to expensive for oct.. thats y cancel.. also say want to go to bangkok with me in dec for holiday when i ask her , want me to go attend a m'sia wedding of her supervisor say she not sure want to go or not but if i go she will want to go as her sup knows of me and want her to bring me along cos i always around her workplace (send her to work) .. thats y i am so smitten by her i tink.. cos i tot i finally found a girl who really loves me even i am not rich and not after any purpose to be together with me...not like my ex after s pass and pr..

anyway if this relationship really cannot makeup or workout , i tink i will not go into another one for yrs till i tink i am financially stable and smart enough to handle another gal , which i tink high chance is another viet gal cos so far only viet gals can stir my heart (might b a curse i tink) althouhg i had met some other gals for dinner all these , my current one is the 4th i met online and have dinner and is the only one who cause my heart to stir after a few meeting ups in a few days..(she also want to see me that time not only me everyday altohugh i havent jio her to b my gf)
yes. please move on.
1) ticket to HCMC is never expensive.
2) work hard to be financially stable before coming out to the world and know my gals 'practically'
3) you really need to get out and know the world instead on getting to know gals via online

it is a norm for viet gal to intro their boyfriend to everyone she knows. Asking you to go HCMC, asking to attend supervisor wedding, etc is a NORM
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Since when this vietnamese learning thread become a love problem thread, and u ask ppl to ignore this thread!!! Lidat when i got difficulty in understanding viet sms and seek help, nobody will come to my rescue liao...u wan me to die ha

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Re: Tieng Viet lovers club

Long time no see.... your opinion still as sharp as before... "1 needle see blood"

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you do a bit of baiting at first but the rest of the way they have to be the one to run after you. If they do not do that, be reminded that there are a lot of other pretty viet girls more willing to take her place.

The beauty of choosing a Viet girl is that they tends to naturally take good care of you, be very obedient to your wimps and wishes, basically pamper you to your death and make you feel like a overgrown baby boy.

you seems like the mussy-fuzzy type of wimpy goody boy (which you should snap out of that as quickly as possible and time to make women realise that its a men's world).

dump her.
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Old 29-09-2009, 02:33 AM
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Re: Tieng Viet lovers club

thanks bros for the replies..

she message me ask mi where i am ., i also gong gong tell her where i was that time and she message me say "ok enjoy your day".. then suddenly something struck my mind the next second thinking "she like tat ask is it she want to see if i around her place and if i am she will meet me..) so i was near her house that time but still need 10 min(by mrt) to reach so i tot she want to see me so i rush over(by mrt , just 2 stops away).. and when i reached i message her again say " actually i am at your house downstairs park seating.." ,



at 1 am i decided that i do not want her to think i am like a crazy man always waiting for her at the park so i decided to tell her the truth of the above of what happened really on sunday.. cos when i message "actually i am at your house downstairs park seating" when we had the confrontation she says i am like a crazy person make her feel like she had borrowed something from me and nvr return me..she told me.. which i felt sort of insulted when i think back at the conversation she say.. so i tink there is a need to tell her the truth .. after this message i sent another normal well wishing message..

She just sms me the sop message when i wish her happy working at her break with "thanks and good night " , seems that she will only message me at her 2nd break at 1.30 am (yesterday also roughly this time ,). i still uses the em and anh in the message..

i am wondering if she want to ignore me during the whole of the day , why still bother send sop message to me at all , i mean since she say i am hateful and she is angry at me, also thinks i am like the most crazy man she ever met then why still bother to sms me at all i mean if i were her i will totally ignore and dun bother to reply any message of this man who makes her tired , boring , angry ...

why do viet gals like to play this fishing bait thing if she dun want to be with me why cant say out straight and come clean rather than play this kind of stupid game like cat chase mouse..say u are not that stupid to dunno what i meant.. then still want to sms me the sop message (why bother if want to breakup... why ? wannt to let me know sshe still treat me as friend or want to prove to me she is a good person nvr did any ppl wrong? )
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