Bangkok Scene

[juggernutt]

Rao 2....it's rao karaoke...they speak it as LAo Karaoke.
At Kaseth Ratchoyothin....justy past the IMAX theatre. According to the concierge of my hotel(Chaopya park Hotel) this is a place only known to foreigners of the asian persuasion. Unknown to euros or even the Thais!! That's what he said anyway..a lot of asian foreigners ask him for this place.

The chicks are OK...the lingerie model are ok. Not super.
More interesting are the other chhicks. Fully cloth....how do you apporach them? I was there at 7pm!! Lol...not desperate..just curious.

Maybe to early...but maybe just because I am not good looking. But no one approached me...what's the deal? I should go out and just check them out? Damn place was empty. Only one other client...but that guy seem to be a regular. Playing bargames with a couople of chicks.

Anyway I am looking for a LT on teh 30th of june. What's my best bet?
Go to NEP early 7 pm and takeout a girl LT there? I need LT because I need a girl to console me if the match holland-portugal goes bad.

Anyway staying there till the 4th of July...any cheogsters there wanna meet up? Maybe show me the ropes.

[delifrance]

Hi

good info, thanks. You can try other places for LT instead of going to go-go bars although go-go bars give you the chance to look at the goods before you consider proposing your LT option to the girl.

Ap Nam, KTV, Lounges, just go early and exercise your mind a bit to think of how to go around these obstacles......the girl might appear at your hotel at about 2.30am to stay with you LT. LOL.

delifrance, juggernutt,

thanks for the 411 bros.

rao doesn't seem to be to my taste. i tend to stick to the mp girls when i'm in the mood for some sanook ( white pale skin, chinese look ). sounds to me like it's a similar set up to counter 39. if it is, i think i will pass, was not impressed with the counter 39 girls over all.

what is Ap Nam

[keet]

Counter 39 is a straight LSB and totally not same as Rao.
Everyone's cheonging style is different so i personally dont think you will know till u experience it yourself.

well everywhere got gem lying around, u might even find them in Nana.
for me i've found live-in tiraks from the MP, Nana, Counter & Rao kind of joints when living there, but the game was to go and make them yours (meaning quit from job) after a "courtship" period at the joint.

Ap-Num = Bath = MP

chok dee krup.

[tirak69]

Originally Posted by keet

... for me i've found live-in tiraks from the MP, Nana, Counter & Rao kind of joints when living there, but the game was to go and make them yours (meaning quit from job) after a "courtship" period at the joint...

dats the fun part... the issue later is if she dun work then who pay her bills and expenses... dun tell me its sponsor time? or will she go and look for a decent day job and earn her 5k-6k THB per month? that means no more taxi rides, eating at MK/daidomon/oishi regularly, cut down on trips to saloons etc...

share with us the aftermath experience bro...

[keet]

Originally Posted by tirak69

dats the fun part... the issue later is if she dun work then who pay her bills and expenses... dun tell me its sponsor time? or will she go and look for a decent day job and earn her 5k-6k THB per month? that means no more taxi rides, eating at MK/daidomon/oishi regularly, cut down on trips to saloons etc...

share with us the aftermath experience bro...

i mentioned "when i was living there"... so it's not actually a sponsor rather supporting ourselves. probably same meaning also lah.. hahaha.
I can tell u .. none of my g/f at tat time find any daytime job. I had r/s ranging from 3mths to the longest 18mths. They stay home most of the day and we would then go out at night as i drive so no need taxi.
Saved quite abit comparing to getting ST every nite.

[keet]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

I agree that there are gems around, even at Nana. Once I had a tirak there who is a showgirl.

But I beg to differ on the "game" part.

My game is to "get" them without them quitting their jobs. Something of a part time lover. I think it's not difficult to do that. My latest is a singer at Mirage and two girls working in the traditional massage.

It's a bit risky to get them out of their job, unless you intend to support them for a very long time, like forever.

bro, if u say getting them w/out them quitting if you visit Bkk regularly is ok. of cos they might have lots of other customers doing this at the same time as you.
i was refering to when i was living there, so it will be kinda of different game lor.

[keet]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

I understand, bro.

But I am also living in Bangkok (and other parts of Thailand). Even now, I have an apartment there.

Also, I have no objections to any of my gf having other customers if at all they have, as firstly, they are not my wives, and secondly, I don't really have to support them. Heck, all I have to do is call anyone of them I'm coming and they'll fetch me from the airport, send me to my office everyday, etc, etc, and be there for me at night when I'm there.

By the way, not all girls do bookings just because of working in the night, like traditional massage, singers, etc.

It's a happy world!

of cos bro.. cos then u have attained the PiiChai status, thai style..hehehe

[delifrance]

Hi

just my observations from normal thai friends that I have : the lowest professional they view is the Ap Nam girl and the street-walkers cum FLs hitting pubs and discos, just slightly above this level is the traditional massage girl.

I find the traditional massage girl as the most dangerous creature of all.....think about why......

[Sinthai]

Keet and Thaivisitor have a good point there. I too find it more satisfying to have a regular tirak rather than a different short time every night. There is a certain comfort in the familarity built up over time. However like I have said earlier, in this 'business' too much familarity may not be a good thing and I try not to let any of this drag on for more than a year. So far so good as around that time such relationsips tend to drift. In my case at least.

My current tirak has a day job and work in the bar as a second job although when I'm there she doesn't go to the bar, unless I have a business dinner which in Thailand is quite often (entertainment and personal relationship play a more important part in business than in Singapore). She has quite a lot of liberties at her second job as the bar is owned by her sister. While the going is good......

[delifrance]

Hi Thaivisitor

"grin"....ok, I'll check my schedule....hehehe....if I dont contact you privately by 6th July, that means I am still in homeland.

[juggernutt]

Back in euroland,
Man I had a blast in BKK....I would like to contribute with some FR. Just not sure to put it in a seperate thread or just break it up and fill them into the existing threads.

I like to do everything in reverse..so I come with my conclusions first.
Like I said i found it a blast, the people are so nice.
But IMO I got to agree with RM and the indo cheongsters. Maybe BKK and thailand is the official sin-city, but jakarta and Indonesia must be the unofficial one.

Thanks to all your cheongsters and their insiders reports I have been able to really check out the BKK scene.
These are the places I have visited:

NEP
RCA
Sutthisan(Intra mura road)
MPs(Poseidon and CP2)
RAO
Beergarden Soi 7
Massage in hotel room

I didn't go to Patpong or Soi Cowboy. Also the vaunted Club eden(Threesome haven..anything goes) was not on my list even though staying at the ambassador and PResident Solitaire it was all close by. And the Skytrain makes everything SO easy. (Why can't the DAMN indo's do the same...compared to thailand Indonesia is so much richer, but they are now seriously left behind by BKK at least)

Starting with NEP. Man this place is a riot...a lot of westerners, but thankfully with all the japs around it's ok if you're an asian.First things first.. I heard some scary stories from thai people that say that NEP is unsafe!! The girls here are all unchecked and not really "clean". Not sure how true this is...anyone? Or is it just a scary story by taxi driver who want youy to got to a MP?

In NEP I didnt sit in the beer bars outside...just dont see how much fun it is to sit outside. I dont come there to chitchat, even though some of the chicks look nice. I guess if you're looking for more than a one night fling..this is the place to get the TGFE for your stay in LOS.
While I was there I chose to visit the GOGO bars...frankly the babes in rainbow II are the undisputed best lookers. Other places have a couple of choice ones..but RB2 is known for having the lookers. All of them have something special..great face, great body or both. If you are into the japanese looking girls ..this is the place to be.
Anyway the gals there are aware of this and there attitude is reminiscent of the gals in Patpong. Very jaded and they think that all they need to do is look pretty and that's enuff. Prices are here pretty high.
BF is like everywhere in NEP(?) 600bht, ST is 2000. But LT is 4000(elsewhere it's 3000)
IN RB2 they all seem to be more interested in ST.
Not sure if I am overpaying here..I am not handsome guy. More sammo hung , than bruce lee and not helping much I guess is that everyone keep thinking that i am Japanese.
Anyway plenty of eyecandy. But for ST...better IMO to go to the MPs. Babes are there more beautifull and I think you get a better bet for a good service. Price wise even Poseidon compares favourably if you add up BF and ST fee.
So in NEP I was more into the gal watching, for me to take one back...she really must do more than just look pretty. I picked up gals at RB1 and also at Mandarin on 1st floor. Of all the gals here...i came away with one of the reception/hello girls of the mandarin. Didnt even know it was possible or that her service would be that good. Loved her bubbly personality and the sex was awesome.
[A little side bar..I once stayed till Nana closed. 2am. WOW it was really happening than. All the gals streamed out...and the Nana hotel/parking was filled with punters and gals...atmosphere was pretty exciting.
A girl with a face like an angel came to me..asking if i wanted to have a good time, said she was from the Hollywood bar. I wasn't all that sure..but she was pretty insistant..in the end I said..WTH. And went with here back to the hotel. I chose to walk from NEP to my hotel at Soi11 and she came along. Lucky for me..I stopped at the Subway for a Coffee frappe. And in the glaring light...I saw that she had only the face of an angel. She had tatoos, but on her fore arms i saw scars like it was made with a razorblade on her arms. While we walked and talked early she made sure to hide it from me. And in the dimlight outside it worked...
A real dose of reality...didnt need the coffee to wake me up. I don't know why she had all the scars..but it scared the hell out of me.Even with a face like that..she doesnt work at a gogo bar. Afraid that losing face could cause her to create a scene or go crazy...I chose to walk back to the hotel with her instead of dismissing her at once. Here I gave her a few hunderd bht and told her i was just to tired. I knew that if she went crazy..I could runaway to the hotel and hope the hotel security will stop her.
What i did was not so brave..but at least I have avoided trouble here and no one got hurt or embarassed]

RCA...I mentioned this joints earlier in other threads. It looks like a Whiskeybars...not even a disco. Everybody sitting around drinking whisky(JW)
It was not my kinda place....dont like whiskey and don't know how you can pick up a chick here. If you go....take someone who could speak thai and it's a good idea to come with more persons.

Sutthisan...intra mura road near soi 4 aka RCA aka RCAII. Agree with advice here, it's near a 7-11.Actually there are two of them. The 7-11 at soi 4 is actually the start of the bars. It's like NEP...a bunch of gogo bars, but more suited for the locals. No expat or tourist insight. The gals are IMO lower quality then in NEP and the places are pretty seedy. Also no one here can speak english at all.People are pretty pushy and keep on hassling you for drinks and tips etc.The gals are only 1500 ST and 2000 LT. NO BF, but here you pay the gal in advance!! Well you can guess the potential problem here. With a NEP gal LT means the whole night so you could relax awhile and maybe grab a bite to eat first. This is what I did...than all of a sudden the gal wanted to go to the toilet. I let her go, after 30 minutes I knew something was wrong. After talking to concierge and tourist police for advice they told me to go back to the bar and ask for money back. I did just that, but they refused to pay out at first, in the end I only got 1000bht back of the 2000bht. I didnt push it , but filed this experience in my memory. I guess with paying upfront this could become a problem. The bar I got the girl from is the first bar you come after you up from 7-11 at soi 4 near the gasstation and it's actually the biggest bar with the best looking chicks. But after this experience I didnt want to try my luck again.
Why did i say here...aka RCA and RCA 2. I think when people talking about RCA and picking up girls..this is the place they mean. There are 2 bars here and they are called RCA and RCA2. Anyway maybe I'd try my luck next time, but if you are staying at the sukhumvit area. Dont waste your time.

MPs....wow was i looking forward to visiting them. Poseidon was the best...the gals are real lookers. Expensive, but wwhen you consider the BF and ST. reasonable.
I didn't like service of the papasans in either of these places...guys are just looking for tips and not genuine with their advice. aholes.
Downside of Poseidon...not the place for B2B massage..or massages of any kind. Frankly..IMO poseidon is just a brothel. Nothing more..the girl will bath you and than you can fuck her with BJ(with condom only!!) I wanted a B2b(tora) massage..the papasan tole me it was possible. His bad/wrong advice messed up my mojo and ruined my experience.(I didn't choose the best looking or horniest looking chick, but chose the girl the papasan said will give B2B massage)
CP2...on bangkok2night.com(highly recommended site for info on bkk, more than just sex!!) was highly recommended. Well the gals are not so nice, but they DO have B2B massage. The straight fuck gals...there was some serious lookers here. I tried it...but the gal...or better yet old lady first fooled me with her fake boobs(Super pushup something) I should have listen to the papasan here!! Anyway there was no chemistry and frankly it was all so so. IMO the best B2B massage place is Sabailand in Pattaya. Here they spcialises in this...first B2B than you must pay for extra service!! But they are really good at the job. What's the best B2B places in BKK? Frankly most MPs like poseidon are just brothels..great if you want a fuck..not if you want B2B massage.
No chance to visit other MPs..wanted to visit catherine, nataree and mirage. Ah well next time .

[juggernutt]

part2:

RAO Karaoke is a pickup joint..I mentioned this earlier. Kaseth Rayothin just behind the IMAX theater. Wanted to combine watching a movie and picking up a gal here or viceversa. No time. When I visited the place, it was kinda different..felt uncomfortable because it was dark here and no punters around. Just me and a another guy. The gals are here pretty nice lookers...esspeccially the gals sitting around. Not sure about the level of english or service..it was my first night in BKK so my confidence level was pretty low. I guess I should have been bold and just walked around and checked the gals out. No mamasan came to me to explain how everything worked or intro me to the gals. The gals in lingerie behind the bar was so so...maybe 6,5/7s..but not more.

Beer garden soi 7...man I felt uncomfortable here as an asian. There was only old westerners sitting around. No asian or japs around. Felt everyone was looking at me. Tell the truth I visited pretty early 3pm. But I thought this was a prime place for afternoon picksup. Well the girls were not to my liking. Just ugly, old or both. I guess I now know where all these westerners walking with ugly chicks on the street get them from.

Massage in hotel room....one piece of advice NEVER let your concierge arrange for a massgae in your room. The spa at the president solitaire doent do any inroom massages. After a full day shopping and running around BKK I was dead tired, my legs were just killing me. I was looking forward to a real massage. Because the Spa didnt do it the reception let the concierge arrange it for me. Even though I insisted I wanted a REAL massage...I got something in between. She looked quite good.(nice face and legs) and she did her best with the massage. But IMO..it was pretty crappy to me. I knew that when she change into an hotpants before the massage. After an hour rubbing..cant call it massaging, she went to the business and offered me a BJ for 1500 above the massage price. Ididnt feel like it..but after some carefull ministrations(She know what she doin here!!) I was all ready to go so I just paid and got a pretty good capped BJ from her. Still a BS experience..and suggest you go to the traditional massages outside the hotel and ask if they do outcall service. You know sex(HJ,BJ or FS) is available..but at least you know the gal will be also an expert in massage.

Wow all in all a pretty long report..but I hope it at least give the cheongsters here somthing like a comprehensive short summary of the BKK scene.
In short great experience in BKK...love the people, food, shopping. Love the gals with there so beautifull bodies. With the western clothing there all the gals in thailand look so hot. I also just LOVE the gals in uniform. They must be all smart to study at a university...but they don't know SHIT about buying clothes in the correct sizes. All one size to small...
Love to coming back..but if you BKK guys want some real action try INDO for sie. I know you won't be dissappoineted.

[ramrod72]

Well bros, I hope to contribute some when I'm back. Will try out the recommendations for MPs that do the soapy thingy. So far short listed Poseiden, Nataree or Christine. Unless anyone got somewhere better.

[BkkPattaya]

Originally Posted by juggernutt

part2:

RAO Karaoke is a pickup joint..I mentioned this earlier. Kaseth Rayothin just behind the IMAX theater. Wanted to combine watching a movie and picking up a gal here or viceversa. No time. When I visited the place, it was kinda different..felt uncomfortable because it was dark here and no punters around. Just me and a another guy. The gals are here pretty nice lookers...esspeccially the gals sitting around. Not sure about the level of english or service..it was my first night in BKK so my confidence level was pretty low. I guess I should have been bold and just walked around and checked the gals out. No mamasan came to me to explain how everything worked or intro me to the gals. The gals in lingerie behind the bar was so so...maybe 6,5/7s..but not more.

Beer garden soi 7...man I felt uncomfortable here as an asian. There was only old westerners sitting around. No asian or japs around. Felt everyone was looking at me. Tell the truth I visited pretty early 3pm. But I thought this was a prime place for afternoon picksup. Well the girls were not to my liking. Just ugly, old or both. I guess I now know where all these westerners walking with ugly chicks on the street get them from.

Massage in hotel room....one piece of advice NEVER let your concierge arrange for a massgae in your room. The spa at the president solitaire doent do any inroom massages. After a full day shopping and running around BKK I was dead tired, my legs were just killing me. I was looking forward to a real massage. Because the Spa didnt do it the reception let the concierge arrange it for me. Even though I insisted I wanted a REAL massage...I got something in between. She looked quite good.(nice face and legs) and she did her best with the massage. But IMO..it was pretty crappy to me. I knew that when she change into an hotpants before the massage. After an hour rubbing..cant call it massaging, she went to the business and offered me a BJ for 1500 above the massage price. Ididnt feel like it..but after some carefull ministrations(She know what she doin here!!) I was all ready to go so I just paid and got a pretty good capped BJ from her. Still a BS experience..and suggest you go to the traditional massages outside the hotel and ask if they do outcall service. You know sex(HJ,BJ or FS) is available..but at least you know the gal will be also an expert in massage.

Wow all in all a pretty long report..but I hope it at least give the cheongsters here somthing like a comprehensive short summary of the BKK scene.
In short great experience in BKK...love the people, food, shopping. Love the gals with there so beautifull bodies. With the western clothing there all the gals in thailand look so hot. I also just LOVE the gals in uniform. They must be all smart to study at a university...but they don't know SHIT about buying clothes in the correct sizes. All one size to small...
Love to coming back..but if you BKK guys want some real action try INDO for sie. I know you won't be dissappoineted.

Agree with most of what you've mentioned.
But from reviews as well as hands on experience, Sabaidee is "THE PLACE" for B2B/Arb Naam. Well, I feel that any of the Sabai establishments beat the BKK MPs in terms of service and pricing. Poseidon is good among the Bkk establishments but still lacking compared to the Sabai Group.
Wasted you didn't try Patpong. Brought abt 4 different groups of cheongsters there the last 3 years or so, we all enjoyed the happening there. In case you're wondering which joints, King's Castle 1 and 2, but go after 9pm for better quality puyings. King's Castle 3 if you're into Khatoeys, ok if you're entirely hertosexual, really an eye opener. Common consensus is that Patpong ranks 1, followed by NEP and Cowboy. Been to all three and that's what I feel also.
Pay a visit to the scene outside Siam Hotel and Thermae Cafe next time you're there, plenty of FLs plying their trade.
Since you mentioned missing out on couple of places, better head back to BKK for some sanukking soon.