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#8401
17-09-2008, 09:20 AM
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Re: Jakarta Info
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You looking for tom yam in Indonesia? Must go for the nasi padang when in Indonesia lah.... 
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#8402
17-09-2008, 12:43 PM
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Re: Jakarta's trip
Hi bro,
Something you ight be interested in reading. City hands recycled meat problem to restaurateurs Tifa Asrianti, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta In a bid to prevent recycled meat from entering the markets, the city administration Tuesday called on hotel and restaurant managers to better process any meat they discard. Governor Fauzi Bowo said he had asked the tourism agency to coordinate with hotels. "We will monitor the hotel waste. The agency should warn these eating establishments that anyone who is negligent in disposing of the meat will be punished," he said. Fauzi made the comments following news from West Jakarta, where scavengers had taken meat, some rotten, from a dump in Cengkareng and resold it to a cottage industry. The discarded meat was then processed into meatballs and other types of processed meat and retailed. It was reported most of the meats came from hotels and restaurants. Tourism agency head Arie Budhiman said his agency had told the Indonesian Association of Hotels and Restaurants (PHRI) to monitor their food waste. "We don't know at the moment what the correct treatment for waste is exactly. Perhaps we'll ask them to destroy the excess food using equipment which hotels and restaurants commonly use," he said. The head of PHRI's Jakarta chapter, Krishnadi, said the association supported the city's request. "PHRI members have agreed to shred the meat before sending it to the dump," he said as quoted by beritajakarta.com. According to data from the Jakarta statistics agency, there were 306 hotels in 2006, consisting of 135 classified hotels, 135 unclassified hotels, and 36 "other types" of accommodation. Arie said his agency's blaming the recent meat debacle on the hotels might not have been fair to the hotels since the meat was already outside their purview. He added the so-called garbage meat may have come from individual households. "First of all, the sanitation agency should provide sophisticated garbage containers," he said. After the investigations in Cengkareng, West Jakarta Police confiscated the meat and two meat processors from the cottage industry, which could process 50 kilograms of meat per day. Police have also detained suspects. Chaidir Taufik, West Jakarta husbandry and fishery agency head, said after the police had taken 5 kgs of rotten meat for evidence and further laboratory research, his agency destroyed the remaining 50 kgs in Dharma Jaya slaughterhouse in Kapuk, Cengkareng on Monday. "We have deployed our staff in 68 neighborhood markets and 24 supermarkets," Chaidir said, as quoted by beritajakarta.com. The price of beef has been rising during the fasting month of Ramadan, from Rp 12,000 (US$1.30) to Rp 60,000 per kg. In several markets the price has reached Rp 72,000. Fauzi said he did not know why the rotten meat recycling industry could operate for five years unhampered. He said he would not let such incidents occur in the future. My humble two cents.
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#8403
17-09-2008, 12:57 PM
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Hi bro,
Something to read about. PKS seeks porn bill as 'Ramadan present' Abdul Khalik, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta A power play within the House of Representatives has ensured the legislative body will pass the pornography bill, which critics deem a threat to citizens' privacy and the country's pluralism. Although the Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI-P) and the Prosperous Peace Party (PDS) have rejected the bill and ceased discussing it, the debate on a draft of the bill continues. Out of the public spotlight, the House working committee deliberating the bill is set to table the final draft to the House's plenary session in the next few weeks, with many contentious articles left unchanged. "We are boycotting the process because we can't have a dialogue on articles we disagree with. They just pushed for a vote to settle every contentious matter. And they're moving forward without us," PDI-P lawmaker Eva K. Sundari said. Golkar politician Harry Azhar Azis said passage of the bill seemed inevitable, given the unwillingness of groups supporting it to seek a compromise. "Unless there are widespread rallies against the bill across the country, the constellation will not change," he added. Eva criticized the bill for criminalizing victims of pornography and threatening the country's pluralism, adding the proposed law was based purely on morality rather than legality. Muslim scholar Siti Musdah Mulia also slammed the bill for failing to distinguish children from adults, models from producers and distributors or private domains from public spaces. The bill duplicates other laws regulating the same issues, including the criminal code, the child protection law and the cyber law, she said. Both Eva and Musdah agreed the draft contained a vague definition of pornography. According to the bill, pornography encompasses activities such as artwork or poetry -- expressions capable of distinct interpretations by different groups or individuals. "Pornography is any man-made work that includes sexual materials in the form of drawings, sketches, illustrations, photographs, text, sound, moving pictures, animation, cartoons, poetry, conversations or any other form of communicative message," reads Article 1 of the bill, a copy of which was made available to The Jakarta Post. "It can also be shown through the media to the public; it can arouse lust and lead to the violation of normative values within society; and it can cause the development of pornographic acts within society." According to some observers, Articles 9 and 11 of the bill -- which pertain to actors and models -- criminalize victims of pornography while Article 21 allows any group or individual in society to take part in preventive measures, opening the way for hard-liners to take the law into their own hands and commit violence against others. Rights activist Hendardi said those in support of the bill seemed to be using the momentum provided by Ramadan and the upcoming election to push for its passage. By contrast, Mahfudz Siddiq, chairman of the Prosperous Justice Party (PKS) faction in the House, said Indonesia was in urgent need of a pornography law due to widespread moral decadence. "It will be a gift for Ramadan," he said. The PKS and other Muslim organizations, such as the Indonesia Ulema Council (MUI), are staunch supporters of the pornography bill. Porn bill 'poll commodity' Dian Kuswandini Winning Muslim support and refining the image of corrupt lawmakers ahead of next year's elections are motives behind the effort to pass an anti-pornography law, observers say. With the majority of them pushing for passage of the bill while setting aside more urgent draft laws -- particularly, the presidential election and corruption court bills -- lawmakers have chosen their priorities based on what promises the greatest political return, critics added Friday. "Legislators seem to be very pushy about the porn bill. They know it could increase support ahead of the elections, particularly from a large number of Muslim voters," said political analyst Arbi Sanit of the University of Indonesia. "In the first place, the bill is not intended to solve problems with pornography, but merely to win elections," he added. "Lawmakers, in general, are seen as corrupt. Now they want to seem as if they supported anti-pornography as promoting good values and serving the aspirations of Muslims. But, in fact, they only want to polish their image." With the 2009 legislative election just several months away, there are fears the bill will not be effective, given its rushed deliberation, said Ikrar Nusa Bakti of the Indonesian Institute of Sciences (LIPI). "Winning the election is the only thing on the minds of lawmakers now. This would make them less attentive to the substance of the bill," he added. "If they want to gain more Muslim votes with this bill, they should rethink the notion that all Muslims agree with mixing religion and the state," Ikrar added. The House of Representatives has been divided over the controversial bill, with the Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI-P) and the Prosperous Peace Party (PDS) rejecting it, while the Prosperous Justice Party (PKS) and other Muslim-based factions insist on its passage. PKS faction chairman Mahfudz Siddiq said Indonesia urgently needs an anti-pornography law due to widespread moral decadence, adding his party wanted the bill to be a "Ramadan gift". Lawmakers, human rights activists and legal advocates opposed to the bill have criticized it for criminalizing victims of pornography and threatening the country's pluralism. Critics have also said deliberations over the bill lack transparency as they are occurring out of the public spotlight. "The deliberations over the bill have dismissed public involvement. Only in the final minutes did we hear it would be passed. There must be an agenda behind this," said Bivitri Susanti of the Indonesian Center for Law and Policy Studies. Her office, along with other organizations, has lodged a complaint with the House against the bill, but received only defensive responses, she added. "The bill is still unclear in many parts, and this will lead to public misinterpretation. It is not fit for the present conditions of our society," Bivitri said. The definition of pornography used in the bill encompasses any man-made work that includes sexual materials in the form of drawings, sketches, illustrations, photographs, text, sound, moving pictures, animation, cartoons, poetry, conversations or any other form of communicative messages. Article 9 and 11 of the bill -- which pertain to actors and models -- criminalize victims of pornography, while Article 21 allows any group or individual in society to take part in preventive measures, opening the way for hard-liners to take the law into their own hands and commit violence against others. If this bill pass, it would makes it harder in jakarta to enjoy ourselves. My humble two cents.
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#8404
17-09-2008, 01:02 PM
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I do not know of any Thai joints, but places that have Thai women, I know of a few. Do have to agree with you on the cops thing with the asking for money, is a wasted to have to eal with that. My humble two cents.
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#8405
17-09-2008, 01:12 PM
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i know u surf 8hrs a day .... not a wk ..... some days u even put in overtime .. 
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#8406
17-09-2008, 02:57 PM
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TING TING TING...... mie BAKSO....... ting ting ting ting....... 
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#8407
17-09-2008, 03:03 PM
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Wahhhh.... very scary ya....!! So it'll be very risky going around Jkt now? I have to be in Jkt sometime next week, heard you got good contacts who'll provide car and protection?
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#8408
17-09-2008, 05:46 PM
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Nice to see here, very scary to eat meat balls now a days. Have to think twice. My humble two cents.
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#8409
17-09-2008, 05:57 PM
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Nice to see here, very scary to eat meat balls now a days. Have to think twice. My humble two cents.
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#8410
17-09-2008, 06:17 PM
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Nice to see you here, Jakarta is not the scary, but with police doing the check point it could be a bit of a hassle. I do use this travel company from time to time when I go to Jakarta, would you like their contact? Please PM me and I will pass it to you. have a good day. My humble two cents.
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#8411
17-09-2008, 09:22 PM
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Thanks for the update. Quote:
I am sure if they are close is for a good reason, but I am sure they will get back into the swing of things soon. Quote:
I am shock that Alexis, Sands and Malbioro are close; maybe for a day, I am sure they all will be open soon enough. Quote:
Nasi padang is nice but the gado gado and baso are also great. My humble two cents.
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#8412
17-09-2008, 09:42 PM
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Compare to this, we in Singapore have it easy. Woman slapped in road rage incident Wed, 09/17/2008 10:23 AM | City JAKARTA: A six-months pregnant woman and her husband said they were assaulted hit by a passenger in a car with a military license plate in the center of the city Saturday. The woman was driving near Monas when another car with military plates back-ended her car, tempointeraktif.com reported. The sedan drove away but the woman drove after it and stopped it. She demanded the driver's identity card and driving license. Her husband, driving another car, soon joined her and they drove away from the scene together. However, the military sedan followed them and blocked them on Jl. Sudirman. A man emerged from the back seat, went to the other car and grabbed the husband through the open window. He order the husband to get out of his car and hit him twice. The woman tried to intervene and she was also struck. The unidentified man then asked for the driver's documents and left. The couple tried to report the case to the police but were turned away. The police reasoned that any report against military personnel should be file with the military police. --JP Part two: There is no love on the streets of Jakarta. The capital might even be on the brink of war, if the heated emotions on the road are any indication. It seems the city's motorists, motorbike riders and public transportation drivers are not only competing for space, but actively loathe each other. Lenny, a 29-year-old who commutes by motorbike between her home in Kamal, West Jakarta, and her work in Kalideres, also in West Jakarta, finds it hard to deal with bus drivers and her fellow motorcycle riders. "The bus or public minivan drivers really drive me crazy. They pick up and drop off passengers in the middle of the road," she said Tuesday. "They also drive carelessly. For instance, they have the right-turn signal on when actually they will turn left. That's so annoying." She said riding a motorbike, especially for women, needed extra concentration, care and patience. "Motorcycle riders often slip in between cars to find a way through. I prefer not to do that because it's too dangerous. I'd rather wait behind the cars until the traffic moves on," Lenny said. The upshot of that, she said, was other riders beeped their horns and yelled at her, pressuring her to move forward. Her reaction in the situation is to say calmly, "Hey, I don't want to move forward, OK? Why don't you find another way?" Motorists, too, find it hard to deal with their fellow car drivers. Adi, 32, who commutes daily with his wife between Bekasi and his office in Palmerah, West Jakarta, said he was annoyed by how other motorists drove. "They park or stop under the 'no parking' or 'no stopping' signs ... I've been wondering how they got their license," he said. "It really does stress me out. And that's not including the bad manners of public transportation drivers." But the public transportation drivers refuse to shoulder the blame for the traffic congestion. "We just want to pick up as many passengers as we can. The competition between drivers is tough," said Agus, a public minivan driver on the route between Tanah Abang in Central Jakarta and Meruya in West Jakarta. "I'm tired of traffic jams, but what can I do? It's not easy being a mikrolet driver, you know. Thugs in some areas, including Tanah Abang market, often force me to give them money." The 41-year-old driver added that, rather than blaming the van drivers, people should blame the increase in the number of private cars and motorcycles on the roads. "The motorbike riders are also a big headache for me. They act as if they own the streets," Agus added. The combination of traffic congestion, chaos and carelessness can affect road users' physical and mental state. Lenny said she often felt exhausted, caught colds and had cramps in her hands -- symptoms she never felt taking public transportation. "Although it only takes about 20 minutes to ride between my home and my office, it makes me very tired. When I get home, I usually lie down and listen to music to relax," she said. Adi also has his own way to relax. He chooses to listen to music or the radio in the car to reduce his stress. Psychologist Ratih Ibrahim said it was important to find other things to do during these trips. "You have to be realistic and find alternative solutions when facing bad traffic," Ratih said. "If you cannot look for the positive side, it can affect your physical condition." She suggested motorists bring food, books or portable music players to help pass the time during the trip and to avoid traffic congestion by finding other routes or staying a bit later in the office. "You can spend your time having dinner or doing exercise with your friends, while waiting until the rush hour is over," she said. My humble two cents.
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#8413
18-09-2008, 12:06 PM
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Cheers PS: No Thai joint here.
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#8414
18-09-2008, 12:26 PM
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If you are ever in Jakarta an you are looking for a hotel you may want to try this site. Cheap Hotel Deals - I hope this coul be helpful for some. My humble two cents.
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#8415
18-09-2008, 12:30 PM
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If I may add a bit, better a color photo copy of passport. My humble two cents.
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