Happening Discos/Clubs in BKK

[vmtech]

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

This topic is like "marry a thia ger"....... but maybe we should start a topic on "having a thai gf?"

Anyway, just want to pop a question.

For all we know that 99% of the MP girls have sex with customers.

Anyone know how much does a G-club girl earn a month without having sex with customer?

i would say 100% of the MP girls have sex wih customers, tts wad customers go for. fact.
gclub girls generally earn more and live a "higher" life den thier agg counterparts, if REALLY nv sleep with customers, i can say maybe 30k?
or more, cuz nv sleep doesnt mean she cannot KC with customer, so tips tips tips add up alot also

[Charmaine]

Thank you for your response, Mr. Romantic. You've been extremely helpful to me thus far and I'm very appreciative. In this time of emotional loss and confusion, forum members like you are to be treasured.

To be honest the PI idea popped into my head before but since I reckon it will cost a bomb (and I personally don't find it very respectful - I'd be mad if she did it to me) I think I'll have to look past this. I can handle the truth but I don't think I want to spend so much to uncover it. Just a practical man speaking.

G-Club girls, even if they end up sleeping with their customers, don't get paid for it - this I'm pretty sure. They're not pros and whatever they choose to do outside their own work hours (like sleep around freely with handsome strangers) is entirely up to them. I think your analogy of G-Club girls like RCA girls are spot on - after all they're young, attractive and have absolute liberty to sleep around a little bit with whom they desire. I don't think any of us are in a position to control or deny the existence of this facet of Thai life.

I can say for sure that her priority is with her family and earning enough money - for now. I'm ok with that. I guess I just want to be sure at this stage that she's not bringing me on a futile emotional ride.

[candox69]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Hi candox69,

She stays in Ratchada and claims that the monthly rental fees are 6k THB.

Ratchada is a long 5 km stretch, the price from the start to the end is very different, 6K mean a small 25sqm apartment. with a small little toilet.

[Cyberspace Nerd]

Slim and Route 66 still quite happening...always packed during weekends. Not much chance to go G club as tirak always with me

[devilboy1978(2)]

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

I say 99% cuz.... the remaining 1% is old, ugly and unlikely you will bonk lor.

Confirmed we wun bonk,but there r others dat would...
So its still 100%...

[Charmaine]

Originally Posted by vmtech

i would say 100% of the MP girls have sex wih customers, tts wad customers go for. fact.
gclub girls generally earn more and live a "higher" life den thier agg counterparts, if REALLY nv sleep with customers, i can say maybe 30k?
or more, cuz nv sleep doesnt mean she cannot KC with customer, so tips tips tips add up alot also

Hi vmtech,

May I know what "KC" is? Sorry I'm very new here.

[<<<SUCHINDA>>>]

Originally Posted by Mr.romantic

no this is more like "Woes Of A Tirak".

G-Club girl's basic salary is around 15,000B and above excluding lady drinks commission.

Happening Discos/Clubs in BKK thread kena hijacked by another sadfuck to air his woes of a tirak? HERE WE GO AGAIN!

[<<<SUCHINDA>>>]

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

Route 66 can catch some decent girls also.

Define "DECENT"....hehehe 50% of my hit rate there i managed to get into theor pants.....the other half of the other 50% i got to 1st base at least

Many nightlife girls frequent RCA.......not so decent im my books

[mambo_maus]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Thank you all for your kind replies. I will definitely check out Private Dancer as recommended. Is it available as an e-book?

I just had a 2-hour long conversation with her on MSN. She's got a PC at home but apparently they all use this "top-up" scheme where you need to top up credits in order to use the internet, so she specially walked to an internet cafe to talk to me. By the way I've been to her place and she's got this huge-ass LCD flat screen TV (32 inch or something) that dwarfs the one I have in my own room, and her laptop is a Sony Vaio. By golly she's probably more well off than I am in absolute terms.

I asked her everything, and she told me everything. Assuming she isn't lying, these are some of the confessions she made to me.

- She likes me and really appreciated the fact that I didn't try to fuck her when she stayed over. Twice.

- All girls in her club are sworn by secrecy on their relationship status, so even if a girl has a boyfriend she is banned from telling the truth. Well she claims herself that she doesn't have one, ironically.

- All girls in her club do not sleep with their customers. She's only slept with this Australian-Chinese guy who was initially her customer but became "serious" about her and fucked her afterwords then left without a trace. She's still very hurt by what he did to her. Silly girl.

- I spoke to her about her job. Her curt reply was "I know. It is not easy, but I cannot choose." She also said that she can plan all she wants in the long term (to quit her job after she gets her house), but "you don't know the future."

What really attracts me to this girl is her honesty and demaenour. I mean, I can hold a perfect conversation with her in English, she's very attuned to world developments (she even knew about Mas Selamat's escape) and carries herself extremely well (Marc Jacobs handbag, DKNY watch; you know the drill). Best part is, she's very self-sufficient and has never demanded for anything for the sake of it. You all know how it works in G-Clubs - the more drinks you buy, the more she earns. In the 5 days I was there she didn't order a single drink; just modestly from my bottle. I also "tested" her by suggesting that I should buy her something expensive before I leave (like a watch or something) but she just smiled and shook her head - my guess is she can probably afford it herself. I didn't have to spend much on her besides just meals (the man has to pay out of politeness) and she even paid for my ice cafe latte at Starbucks. And yes, she came to meet me at 2pm in the day to go shopping (at Siam Square) and I was only picking up my own stuff, not hers.

Am I just trying to convince myself that she's "special"?

Charmaine,
It seems like this girl is too 'polished', she has left all the bases covered well.
I elaborate... the reasons u have mentioned above are all well and true, they make sense, however, I might think that over you; she has the upper hand. NO girl would like to work in this industry, so long as you keep this in mind whilst you carry on with her, you are much better off.
Life for them is hard, harder than you and I can ever picture, there is always an extenuating circumstance that compels her to work and let men grope, hug, touch all night for a couple of drinks. While everyone has a price, a lot of them are numb of the leering perverts that go to these joints with one sole aim in mind. So it might be that when you came along, you provided a refreshing change.
I fear that although she likes you, but it is a stop gap measure till her ATM revisits her. All the information given to you mentioned in earlier post has added false creditability to her sweet sweet song. She may not have the intention to cheat or lie to you. But I feel she is withholding back a lot of information that she fears might make you change your impression of her. For example, in her hometown, she has a child.
Addresses in bbk can be changed on a whim, she may move to another ‘sister’s’ house when confronted. And as a side note, you will never catch her in the act in her rented place.
What stands out to me is that she is fluent in english; it seems very odd for a thai. I mean that: look, most ppl learn thai by having a long haired dictionary. To be fluent in the language, u must have a supportive native speaker to help attain a certain level of fluency and have had a lot of practice along the way, she cant learn that much and tat fast in a disco setting, and when she leaves the disco, assuming that she runs her daily errands, are all not going to improve her English, unless its constant interaction with a english native speaker.
Also, when she leaves the industry, do you really think you have a chance at a real relationship with her? is she ready to settle down with you in Singapore? Or you ready to drop your life and move? Think about it. After all the effort and trials she has been through, she finally got a house, bought with cash. Great. Then her entire family sees her as a cash cow, to buy them houses too. The cycle repeats itself.
Perhaps, there are many more elements that you are unsure of. That nagging doubt in the back of your mind that tells you, is that real? Is she real? No amount of advice can get you through this as it is a completely different world compared to the all singing all dancing societal veneer that the thais so masterfully lead us to believe.
But as men are, we are all sucker for beautiful women. Consider all the elements before psyching yourself to find the conviction on empty words; and if you can, let me know, i am still searching for the same answers you seek.

Regards.

[mambo_maus]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Thank you all for your kind replies. I will definitely check out Private Dancer as recommended. Is it available as an e-book?

I just had a 2-hour long conversation with her on MSN. She's got a PC at home but apparently they all use this "top-up" scheme where you need to top up credits in order to use the internet, so she specially walked to an internet cafe to talk to me. By the way I've been to her place and she's got this huge-ass LCD flat screen TV (32 inch or something) that dwarfs the one I have in my own room, and her laptop is a Sony Vaio. By golly she's probably more well off than I am in absolute terms.

I asked her everything, and she told me everything. Assuming she isn't lying, these are some of the confessions she made to me.

- She likes me and really appreciated the fact that I didn't try to fuck her when she stayed over. Twice.

- All girls in her club are sworn by secrecy on their relationship status, so even if a girl has a boyfriend she is banned from telling the truth. Well she claims herself that she doesn't have one, ironically.

- All girls in her club do not sleep with their customers. She's only slept with this Australian-Chinese guy who was initially her customer but became "serious" about her and fucked her afterwords then left without a trace. She's still very hurt by what he did to her. Silly girl.

- I spoke to her about her job. Her curt reply was "I know. It is not easy, but I cannot choose." She also said that she can plan all she wants in the long term (to quit her job after she gets her house), but "you don't know the future."

What really attracts me to this girl is her honesty and demaenour. I mean, I can hold a perfect conversation with her in English, she's very attuned to world developments (she even knew about Mas Selamat's escape) and carries herself extremely well (Marc Jacobs handbag, DKNY watch; you know the drill). Best part is, she's very self-sufficient and has never demanded for anything for the sake of it. You all know how it works in G-Clubs - the more drinks you buy, the more she earns. In the 5 days I was there she didn't order a single drink; just modestly from my bottle. I also "tested" her by suggesting that I should buy her something expensive before I leave (like a watch or something) but she just smiled and shook her head - my guess is she can probably afford it herself. I didn't have to spend much on her besides just meals (the man has to pay out of politeness) and she even paid for my ice cafe latte at Starbucks. And yes, she came to meet me at 2pm in the day to go shopping (at Siam Square) and I was only picking up my own stuff, not hers.

Am I just trying to convince myself that she's "special"?

Charmaine,
It seems like this girl is too 'polished', she has left all the bases covered well.
I elaborate... the reasons u have mentioned above are all well and true, they make sense, however, I might think that over you; she has the upper hand. NO girl would like to work in this industry, so long as you keep this in mind whilst you carry on with her, you are much better off.
Life for them is hard, harder than you and I can ever picture, there is always an extenuating circumstance that compels her to work and let men grope, hug, touch all night for a couple of drinks. While everyone has a price, a lot of them are numb of the leering perverts that go to these joints with one sole aim in mind. So it might be that when you came along, you provided a refreshing change.
I fear that although she likes you, but it is a stop gap measure till her ATM revisits her. All the information given to you mentioned in earlier post has added false creditability to her sweet sweet song. She may not have the intention to cheat or lie to you. But I feel she is withholding back a lot of information that she fears might make you change your impression of her. For example, in her hometown, she has a child.
Addresses in bbk can be changed on a whim, she may move to another ‘sister’s’ house when confronted. And as a side note, you will never catch her in the act in her rented place.
What stands out to me is that she is fluent in english; it seems very odd for a thai. I mean that: look, most ppl learn thai by having a long haired dictionary. To be fluent in the language, u must have a supportive native speaker to help attain a certain level of fluency and have had a lot of practice along the way, she cant learn that much and tat fast in a disco setting, and when she leaves the disco, assuming that she runs her daily errands, are all not going to improve her English, unless its constant interaction with a english native speaker.
Also, when she leaves the industry, do you really think you have a chance at a real relationship with her? is she ready to settle down with you in Singapore? Or you ready to drop your life and move? Think about it. After all the effort and trials she has been through, she finally got a house, bought with cash. Great. Then her entire family sees her as a cash cow, to buy them houses too. The cycle repeats itself.
Perhaps, there are many more elements that you are unsure of. That nagging doubt in the back of your mind that tells you, is that real? Is she real? No amount of advice can get you through this as it is a completely different world compared to the all singing all dancing societal veneer that the thais so masterfully lead us to believe.
But as men are, we are all sucker for beautiful women. Consider all the elements before psyching yourself to find the conviction on empty words; and if you can, let me know, i am still searching for the same answers you seek.

Regards.

[Cyberspace Nerd]

Originally Posted by mambo_maus

Charmaine,
What stands out to me is that she is fluent in english; it seems very odd for a thai. I mean that: look, most ppl learn thai by having a long haired dictionary. To be fluent in the language, u must have a supportive native speaker to help attain a certain level of fluency and have had a lot of practice along the way, she cant learn that much and tat fast in a disco setting, and when she leaves the disco, assuming that she runs her daily errands, are all not going to improve her English, unless its constant interaction with a english native speaker.
.

Nowadays a lot of thai ppl can speak english quite well, especially if they are uni educated and lives in BKK. Ask Jun|ch|, his agogo gf is from ABAC, dun prey prey...hahaha....

those decent uni girls that I know thru chatrooms can speak english quite well..because they are influenced by american/western culture, they listen to english pop songs...etc...

[<<<SUCHINDA>>>]

Charmaine, it is pussies galore in Thailand......why limit yourself & get hung up over one piece of public pussy?

No one goes to AGGs or MPs to look for wife.......fuck & forget.....if it was a good fuck then keep her for a few more nites.....not that hard to do right?

[Cyberspace Nerd]

Originally Posted by <<<SUCHINDA>>>

Charmaine, it is pussies galore in Thailand......why limit yourself & get hung up over one piece of public pussy?

No one goes to AGGs or MPs to look for wife.......fuck & forget.....if it was a good fuck then keep her for a few more nites.....not that hard to do right?

You obviously dont know the meaning of SPECIAL.

You go MP or agogo or whatever also got SPECIAL girl right? or someone who makes u feel special.

If i were Charmaine, I wouldnt think so much, just carry on a relationship with her and see what happens. Why need to think if she is sleeping around etc...a lot of people are afraid to get involve with these kind of girls is bcos they are afraid of kena con money. if she is not out to con ur money, then just enjoy her company and free fucks. Time will tell if she is really genuine.

[<<<SUCHINDA>>>]

Originally Posted by Cyberspace Nerd

You obviously dont know the meaning of SPECIAL.

You go MP or agogo or whatever also got SPECIAL girl right? or someone who makes u feel special.

If i were Charmaine, I wouldnt think so much, just carry on a relationship with her and see what happens. Why need to think if she is sleeping around etc...a lot of people are afraid to get involve with these kind of girls is bcos they are afraid of kena con money. if she is not out to con ur money, then just enjoy her company and free fucks. Time will tell if she is really genuine.

Yes by all means just carry on relationship with her to enjoy & reap the benefits of a GFE fuck but dun get emotionally involved.......why bother what she does behind your back as long as you are not poorer for it & she treats you like No.1 each time? Sometimes know the truth then you be disappointed

[Charmaine]

Thank you, mambo_maus. Reading your post made me wake up from my semi-slumber.

- I've suspected this all along. She claims to be a graduate, yes. But that does not explain away the fact that she's so much better in English than her counterparts (who all claim to be graduates). My friend was sitting with a social work graduate from Thornburi University and they hardly mustered a decent conversation all night.

- She's always giving the excuse that she can't text me as often as she likes because her mobile line's out of credit - she has to top it up again at 7-eleven if she wants to sms. But I've realised every time when I confront her with something semi-serious, her sms replies reach me almost immediately.

- She hasn't sms-ed me for the entire day already. It's a Saturday at the club - has she disappeared into the night frolicking a random rich man?

- Whenever I ask about her about the possibility of quitting her job or bringing her over to Singapore, she would reply curtly; almost embarassingly quiet. She might have a hatful of skeletons in that closet of hers.

Below is a short extract of the MSN conversation I had with her just 2 days ago. Names are withheld for anonymity but the actual conversation (parts of it anyway) is reproduced as is, spelling errors inclusive, for authenticity.

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N says:
i at internet cafe
N says:
signal so slow
Me says:
oh? you didnt top up your internet at home?
N says:
office clost
N says:
u busy today?
Me says:
no i am not. not too busy
Me says:
i miss you
N says:
i miss u too
Me says:
is it ok i keep texting you? i think i text you 5 times a day
N says:
no disturb
N says:
i like that
N says:
pls text me
N says:
u text me or call i didt wast cradit
N says:
not same singapore
Me says:
so i can text you as many times as i want? no disturb?
N says:
No
N says:
u can text me
N says:
i like taht make me happy
Me says:
i miss you so much but cannot see you now. it's difficult for me
N says:
err
N says:
u realy no gf now
N says:
?
Me says:
You don't believe me?
N says:
so who keep calling u when i on da bed with u (my phone rang a million times)
Me says:
that's my dad
Me says:
my parents are not in Singapore. They just wanted to check on me to see if i'm alright
Me says:
you dont believe me?
N says:
y u don't tok to them
Me says:
because i was hugging you then
N says:
even u have i understand.just wondering coz u said yor ex gf is know her for long time
Me says:
No it isn't her
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Me says:
it hurts me to know you have to work there every day
N says:
thank u for that felling for me
N says:
how long u finish with gf
Me says:
About a year? Maybe more
N says:
not long
Me says:
do you really like me?
Me says:
pls tell me the truth
N says:
yes i do
Me says:
because everybody thinks i am crazy
N says:
true
N says:
if i not like u y stay wit u for 2 nite
N says:
my fren all go back
N says:
can i ask u..?
Me says:
all my friends think i cannot fall in love with a working girl
Me says:
Everyone think I am crazy
N says:
may be u many time fall in love with da girl?? (persumably means I fall in love easily)
(I answered her as best as I could)
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N says:
hey just now u ssid u know i hide something
Me says:
nevermind
Me says:
It was just a thought
N says:
hey is it alrite u chating wit me?
Me says:
yes its alright
Me says:
did you go to the internet cafe to talk to me?
N says:
yep
Me says:
thank you. I'm touched
N says:
just opposit my place
Me says:
i think i am falling in love
N says:
may be becos u don't know me well
Me says:
you think so?
Me says:
you dont want me to love you? thats why you say that
N says:
no don't get me wrong
N says:
everybody need love
Me says:
why do you say i dont know you well enough?
Me says:
what kind of person are you?
N says:
i don't know wht person i'm too
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Me says:
when will you quit?
Me says:
you want to work forever?
N says:
i knw..but nobody know da futire u know
N says:
i only can plan wht to do. but anything is can happen all da time
N says:
so i'm relax
Me says:
its not so easy to work there
N says:
i know
N says:
u think i'm stupid
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N says:
y u sad
Me says:
because to see you, it's very expensive
N says:
next time you come back
N says:
and i take care of u
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Me says: So what happened in the end.
N says: first time he customer u know.but later he said he serius with me.so i try with him, but it's not work
N says:
i don't love him
N says:
so i tell him da true
Me says:
you try with him, but not me
Me says:
maybe i am not good enough for you
N says:
i not mean that
N says:
u verry good u know
N says:
i mean we so new
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Me says:
you know, i thought about bringing you to singapore
Me says:
buy your air ticket and hotel, then you can just come and i bring you around
Me says:
but that day you said no
N says:
ok let me think again may be i want to go.

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Me says:
if given a choice, will you still work there?
N says:
err
Me says:
nothing to say?
N says:
err
Me says:
its ok
Me says:
its your work i know
N says:
err
Me says:
thats all you can say now huh
N says:
haha
N says:
don't know wht to say

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That's the gist of it, really. I apologise for forcing people to put up with our crap conversation, but if anything I hope it would help shed some light on what she's really thinking. I appreciate everyone's time in reading this.