ICA black list question

[CoolBlack]

Not sure if any bro here can advice but asking for a friend
Summary
Viet gal worked as performer in thai clubs with valid work permit on 3 occasions (2012-2016)
Married SG guy in 2017
Divorce IN 2018
Becos guy didnt want her to leave, reported to ICA that she worked in KTV (which she did not)
Now in 2024 Thai club unable to secure work permit for her as ICA rejected

Question
She is willing to engage a lawyer to resolve this issue with ICA -is there any possibility?
Are there any other means to resolve this issue?

Thank you in advance for any input or insights.

[hayhay]

Originally Posted by CoolBlack

Not sure if any bro here can advice but asking for a friend
Summary
Viet gal worked as performer in thai clubs with valid work permit on 3 occasions (2012-2016)
Married SG guy in 2017
Divorce IN 2018
Becos guy didnt want her to leave, reported to ICA that she worked in KTV (which she did not)
Now in 2024 Thai club unable to secure work permit for her as ICA rejected

Question
She is willing to engage a lawyer to resolve this issue with ICA -is there any possibility?
Are there any other means to resolve this issue?

Thank you in advance for any input or insights.

Please married her

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by CoolBlack

Question
She is willing to engage a lawyer to resolve this issue with ICA -is there any possibility?
Are there any other means to resolve this issue?

Thank you in advance for any input or insights.

Don't waste time engage lawyer...dun waste money...WP is under MOM not ICA...

She is deemed as a trouble maker and not desirable since married and divorce...so correct that MOM reject her WP application..

[Charmycharmer]

She can’t stay here long without work permit. If she can marry a local. Then can apply to remain here.

[Penguin23]

Originally Posted by CoolBlack

Not sure if any bro here can advice but asking for a friend
Summary
Viet gal worked as performer in thai clubs with valid work permit on 3 occasions (2012-2016)
Married SG guy in 2017
Divorce IN 2018
Becos guy didnt want her to leave, reported to ICA that she worked in KTV (which she did not)
Now in 2024 Thai club unable to secure work permit for her as ICA rejected

Question
She is willing to engage a lawyer to resolve this issue with ICA -is there any possibility?
Are there any other means to resolve this issue?

Thank you in advance for any input or insights.

When she applied for a Performing Artiste permit the last time, she may have used a different set of fake educational qualifications compared to the documents she submitted when she secured her permits in 2017

If this is the case, MOM would have detected straightaway that her certs and qualifications don't seem to match. Every foreigner who has ever worked in Singapore has a unique Foreign Identification Number (FIN) and all documents and applications are filed against that number even though she has gone home before and come back again.

I think it's really curtains for her ever staying long term in Singapore, under any pass.

[ghostcow]

Hope the bro that married her is doing well now

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by CoolBlack

Not sure if any bro here can advice but asking for a friend
Summary
Viet gal worked as performer in thai clubs with valid work permit on 3 occasions (2012-2016)
Married SG guy in 2017
Divorce IN 2018
Becos guy didnt want her to leave, reported to ICA that she worked in KTV (which she did not)
Now in 2024 Thai club unable to secure work permit for her as ICA rejected

Question
She is willing to engage a lawyer to resolve this issue with ICA -is there any possibility?
Are there any other means to resolve this issue?

Thank you in advance for any input or insights.

Can simply tell her to go other country to work already.

1) Application for WP nothing to do with ex-hubby reporting ICA about her work in KTV.
2) Penguin23 is correct about documentation submission. She burned her own path if she submitted different cert from previous.
3) No point even to think of marriage route to get in Sillypore. Need MOM blessing to get married in Sillypore and ICA blessing that she can get LTVP+ easily. Both likelyhood is very low.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Can simply tell her to go other country to work already.

1) Application for WP nothing to do with ex-hubby reporting ICA about her work in KTV.
2) Penguin23 is correct about documentation submission. She burned her own path if she submitted different cert from previous.
3) No point even to think of marriage route to get in Sillypore. Need MOM blessing to get married in Sillypore and ICA blessing that she can get LTVP+ easily. Both likelyhood is very low.

Originally Posted by Penguin23

When she applied for a Performing Artiste permit the last time, she may have used a different set of fake educational qualifications compared to the documents she submitted when she secured her permits in 2017

If this is the case, MOM would have detected straightaway that her certs and qualifications don't seem to match. Every foreigner who has ever worked in Singapore has a unique Foreign Identification Number (FIN) and all documents and applications are filed against that number even though she has gone home before and come back again.

Oh...if she did submit different sets of certs then really the most iditic decisions...anyway everyone only had one ID working in Singapore and will be used throughout career...

Including our NRIC number...

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Can simply tell her to go other country to work already.

1) Application for WP nothing to do with ex-hubby reporting ICA about her work in KTV.
2) Penguin23 is correct about documentation submission. She burned her own path if she submitted different cert from previous.
3) No point even to think of marriage route to get in Sillypore. Need MOM blessing to get married in Sillypore and ICA blessing that she can get LTVP+ easily. Both likelyhood is very low.

Originally Posted by Penguin23

When she applied for a Performing Artiste permit the last time, she may have used a different set of fake educational qualifications compared to the documents she submitted when she secured her permits in 2017

If this is the case, MOM would have detected straightaway that her certs and qualifications don't seem to match. Every foreigner who has ever worked in Singapore has a unique Foreign Identification Number (FIN) and all documents and applications are filed against that number even though she has gone home before and come back again.

Oh...if she did submit different sets of certs then really the most idiotic decisions...anyway everyone only had one ID working in Singapore and will be used throughout career...

Including our NRIC number...

[Accolent]

Originally Posted by CoolBlack

Now in 2024 Thai club unable to secure work permit for her as ICA rejected

The thing is not knowing, which is gnawing.
The best method right now to find out why, would be to have the club enquire about the reason, maybe the ica will tell.
Its much cheaper than going for a lawyer straightaway.
Maybe give the some 'service fee' to see if they are willing to enquire.

[donut88]

Simple.

Go back Vietnam. Change name and ID, get new passport. then reapply WP again.

[Accolent]

Originally Posted by donut88

Simple.

Go back Vietnam. Change name and ID, get new passport. then reapply WP again.

Can't change the fingerprints and facial contours.

[Giron]

Originally Posted by CoolBlack

Now in 2024 Thai club unable to secure work permit for her as ICA rejected

Why would ICA be involved in WP matters ?

[donut88]

Originally Posted by Accolent

Can't change the fingerprints and facial contours.

U don't know what these countries can do when comes to under table money.

[Penguin23]

Originally Posted by donut88

Simple.

Go back Vietnam. Change name and ID, get new passport. then reapply WP again.

This was maybe a possibility about 10 years ago. But it is no longer the case now.

Background, my gf was born a man and her ID says she is male. For obvious reasons she hates using her ID and alwsys uses her passport to get around within Vietnam

This year she was forced to retake her Vietnam ID with her biometrics and in July, Vietnam parliament will pass a law to enable change of sex in NRIC

So the days of one person having multiple IDs are over

Same in Indonesia, it used to be fairly common for one p person to have multiple NRICs and multiple identities

The Indonesian NRIC is now digital, with the same security features as Singpass